The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that composer Igor Stravinsky fled Russia after the October Revolution, but returned once in 1962 to conduct in Moscow and Leningrad, meeting Nikita Khrushchev during the visit?
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... that in 1944, Russian composer Igor Stravinsky(pictured) engaged with Boston police after his unique arrangement of "The Star-Spangled Banner" was performed with the Boston Symphony Orchestra? Source: Thom, Paul. 2007. The Musician as Interpreter. Studies of the Greater Philadelphia Philosophy Consortium 4. University Park: Pennsylvania State University Press. ISBN 978-0-271-03198-9. p. 50
ALT1: ... that composer Igor Stravinsky(pictured) studied under member of The FiveNikolai Rimsky-Korsakov for six years? Source: White, Eric Walter (1979). Stravinsky, The Composer and His Works (2nd ed.). University of California Press. ISBN 9780520014350. pp. 25-30
ALT3: ... that composer Igor Stravinsky(pictured) said in 1930 that "I don't believe that anyone venerates Mussolini more than I ... He is the saviour of Italy and – let us hope – Europe"? Source: Sachs, Harvey. 1987. Music in Fascist Italy. New York: W. W. Norton. p. 168
ALT5: ... that composer Igor Stravinsky(pictured) fled Russia after the October Revolution, but returned once in 1962 to conduct in Moscow and Leningrad, meeting Nikita Khrushchev during the visit? Source: Stravinsky, Vera; Craft, Robert (1978). Stravinsky in Pictures and Documents. New York: Simon and Schuster. p. 469 White, Eric Walter (1979). Stravinsky, The Composer and His Works (2nd ed.). University of California Press. ISBN 9780520014350. pp. 146-148
Comment: Some notes on the hooks: ALT0 is my personal favorite; ALT4 would make a good quirky hook (additionally, I do realize it's a rather simple hook, but that's very much intentional since not many famous composers were alive when the Grammy's existed). Additionally, I'd like if it could be featured on May 29. OTD is also featuring the same photo of Stravinsky, so I thought it'd be amusing to have the photo for DYK and OTD be the same. If this against a policy, there's no need for a special occasion. Thanks!
Overall: @MyCatIsAChonk: Good article. I don't think that you'll be able to run it on May 29 as per the rules "not more than six weeks in advance". You can ask in the general discussion but I'm not sure if they'll allow it. AGF on offline citations. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:07, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Earlier today there was a bit of a back-and-forth over the addition of an "accuracy" template. Another editor argued that it was needed because the description of the world premiere of The Rite of Spring as a "near-riot" was a "canard". What has been debunked is the police being called upon to quell the disturbance; this never happened. What is not in doubt, however, is that a disturbance did occur.
According to Stephen Walsh, reports were already circulating ahead of the premiere that the new Stravinsky work was "difficult, violent, incomprehensible", which motivated many to attend the performance for the sake of jeering at it. Supporters of Stravinsky and Diaghilev were moved to vociferously express their support, which in turn led to increased jeering. By the end of part 1, the audience degenerated into screaming matches and even violence between opposing factions. Gaston de Pawlowski's review of the performance stated that "it was only by straining our ears amid an indescribable racket that we could, painfully, get some rough idea of the new work, prevented from hearing it as much by its defenders as by its attackers". Walsh adds, "If the music was heard at all, it can only have been as a component of the uproar, to which it must appreciably have contributed".
Multiple reports attest that matters only got worse once part 2 was belatedly played. "Even when the curtain came down", Walsh reports, "the battle continued". (All of this can be found in Walsh 1999, pp. 203–205.)
The description of the performance as a "near-riot" is accurate; the addition of an "accuracy" template is unnecessary and would itself be misleading. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:49, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mason.Jones, sorry for reverting your edit with no explanation, I started typing an edit summary and it suddenly published the reversion before I could finish. Is there an MoS standard that says would invalidate using "a well-known bass" in the lead? I think including Fyodor's full name and a description of his notability is a bit much for the lead, but perfectly good for the bio below. "A well-known bass" shortly explains that Stravinsky grew up around music. Thanks for looking out for this article! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 20:57, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say that a well-known bass violates the Manual of Style recommendation on "transparency" (WP:EASTEREGG). The reader is obliged to "open an Easter egg" in order to discover that (1) it's Fyodor Stravinsky, and Fyodor was (2) VERY famous in Russia in his own right. Calling him out directly by name makes the point to the reader, whereas the description a well-known bass alone is befuddling. Mason.Jones (talk) 21:25, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest, the whole sentence seems a bit extraneous for the lead. I would think "Born to a musical family..." would suffice, and be more typical with other WP articles. Aza24 (talk)00:55, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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@MyCatIsAChonk: Good article. I don't think that you'll be able to run it on May 29 as per the rules "not more than six weeks in advance". You can ask in the general discussion but I'm not sure if they'll allow it. AGF on offline citations. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:07, 11 March 2023 (UTC)